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	<title>Comments on: Hiring a Good Programmer &#8211; always a gamble</title>
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		<title>By: KevinD</title>
		<link>http://smartup.wordpress.com/2008/01/31/hiring-a-good-programmer-always-a-gamble/#comment-44</link>
		<dc:creator>KevinD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Feb 2008 18:49:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Raza,

Good to see you on here.  I totally agree with you, it is like a flea market, totally, I&#039;d rather see a site where you can actually talk with people face to face (Via skype) and actually build a relationship.  Kanhai, mentioned in my post, worked for himself.  I would be interested in talking further with you if you get a minute, drop me a mail info [at] fuelmyblog.com

Kevin</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Raza,</p>
<p>Good to see you on here.  I totally agree with you, it is like a flea market, totally, I&#8217;d rather see a site where you can actually talk with people face to face (Via skype) and actually build a relationship.  Kanhai, mentioned in my post, worked for himself.  I would be interested in talking further with you if you get a minute, drop me a mail info [at] fuelmyblog.com</p>
<p>Kevin</p>
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		<title>By: Raza Imam</title>
		<link>http://smartup.wordpress.com/2008/01/31/hiring-a-good-programmer-always-a-gamble/#comment-43</link>
		<dc:creator>Raza Imam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Feb 2008 17:38:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hiring good developers (especially offshore) is hard. Most offshore firms are little more than &#039;software sweatshops&#039; that over promise and under-deliver.

I own a Chicago-based offshore development firm and we started finding clients on Elance. The problem we ran into was the &#039;Elance mentality&#039; where buyers act like they&#039;re at the flea market. We realized very quickly that we&#039;re not for everyone and that we only work with clients that demand high quality and are willing to pay for it. It&#039;s been phenomenal for us because we deal with clients that expect top notch work.
 
Finding good offshore developers isn&#039;t hard, but finding people who are committed and reliable is next to impossible.

Outsourcing can not be transactional... the offshore team has to be a part of your team. That way they actually understand you and are committed to you. Big companies set up captive development centers that serve the same purpose. Startups can&#039;t do that, so the trick is to find a mature an d reliable team that will become a part of you.  The real benefit is nurturing a team that&#039;s an extension of you.
 
Outsourcing is about high value, not low cost.
 
Raza Imam
http://BoycottSoftwareSweatshops.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hiring good developers (especially offshore) is hard. Most offshore firms are little more than &#8217;software sweatshops&#8217; that over promise and under-deliver.</p>
<p>I own a Chicago-based offshore development firm and we started finding clients on Elance. The problem we ran into was the &#8216;Elance mentality&#8217; where buyers act like they&#8217;re at the flea market. We realized very quickly that we&#8217;re not for everyone and that we only work with clients that demand high quality and are willing to pay for it. It&#8217;s been phenomenal for us because we deal with clients that expect top notch work.</p>
<p>Finding good offshore developers isn&#8217;t hard, but finding people who are committed and reliable is next to impossible.</p>
<p>Outsourcing can not be transactional&#8230; the offshore team has to be a part of your team. That way they actually understand you and are committed to you. Big companies set up captive development centers that serve the same purpose. Startups can&#8217;t do that, so the trick is to find a mature an d reliable team that will become a part of you.  The real benefit is nurturing a team that&#8217;s an extension of you.</p>
<p>Outsourcing is about high value, not low cost.</p>
<p>Raza Imam<br />
<a href="http://BoycottSoftwareSweatshops.com" rel="nofollow">http://BoycottSoftwareSweatshops.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: shinade</title>
		<link>http://smartup.wordpress.com/2008/01/31/hiring-a-good-programmer-always-a-gamble/#comment-42</link>
		<dc:creator>shinade</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Feb 2008 19:21:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sharing some Link Love

http://shinade.blogspot.com/2008/02/blog-roll-amnesty-day.html

:-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sharing some Link Love</p>
<p><a href="http://shinade.blogspot.com/2008/02/blog-roll-amnesty-day.html" rel="nofollow">http://shinade.blogspot.com/2008/02/blog-roll-amnesty-day.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: shinade</title>
		<link>http://smartup.wordpress.com/2008/01/31/hiring-a-good-programmer-always-a-gamble/#comment-41</link>
		<dc:creator>shinade</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Feb 2008 12:33:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh Kevin I think time has proven that you were not crazy. In fact, I would rather refer to the word genuis. Oh yes in reality I am taking this day off...so I really wasn&#039;t here.

But Fuel My blog is a wonderful spot Kevin and also my favorite place. And I love the addition of the new widgets. Fabulous move there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh Kevin I think time has proven that you were not crazy. In fact, I would rather refer to the word genuis. Oh yes in reality I am taking this day off&#8230;so I really wasn&#8217;t here.</p>
<p>But Fuel My blog is a wonderful spot Kevin and also my favorite place. And I love the addition of the new widgets. Fabulous move there.</p>
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